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Post by Tauron Nox on Mar 23, 2007 23:22:07 GMT -5
I just got back from The FRW show in Rochester, and I thought that i would come on and chime in with my thoughts. This was my first FRW show (although I've seen many of the wrestlers before when they have worked for AWA, WFA, and CW) and I have to say I was impressed. There wasn't a bad match on the whole card, and everyone worked hard. That truly means something since so many indy shows in this area **Cough** Chaotic Wrestling **Cough** are filled with guys who get in the ring and do a half ass job. Like i said previously, everyone worked hard and did a great job, but there were a few particular highlights for me. -Dr. Heresy and Sonny Goodspeed really got the crowd involved in their respective matches, which is always entertaining. -Justin Shape being the mystery partner for the Marriott Corporation was a great surprise. As far as I know it's been a while since Justin has gotten into the ring, but he didn't look to have much ring rust. -Match of the night was easily Maverick Wild vs Christian Angers. Most people know that Mav is one of the best wrestlers in New England, so his great performance was not surprising. However, I was VERY pleasantly surprised by Christian Angers. I had seen him a few years back when he first started out, and he has come a long way. Christian, if you are reading this, GREAT JOB! If tonight is any real example of what can be expected at an FRW show, then you better believe my wife and I will be at everyone one in Rochester! PS It is my firm belief that the FRW fans should start up a "Mav needs a new ring" fund. I know that those things aren't cheap, but that one needs to be retired.
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Post by doverlegend1 on Mar 24, 2007 8:42:51 GMT -5
FINALLY.......The long drought is over ! Wrestling has returned to the seacoast area and i for one will not miss a certain indy organization and its half assed owner as well ! FRW has proved itself with its debut in Rochester last night with every match being a stellar performance ! Everything said in the post above mine i agree with, my partner and me like to be very vocal with the wrestlers and having them work the crowd and us along with watching the matches take place is always a great time ! So kudos to everyone in FRW , we will be looking forward to your return on May 18th for what we can expect will be another great night of FRONT ROW WRESTLING ! Thanks to you all !
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Post by frwfallguy on Mar 25, 2007 10:17:46 GMT -5
A few comments of our own...
1) We were very happy with the turnout. We put out 144 seats for the event, and nearly every one had a hindquarter in it. I wouldn't go as far as to call it a sellout or that obnoxious "SRO" abbreviation, but we sold most of the seats. It was a hell of a start, and hopefully we can improve on that for May.
2) I am very glad everyone in attendance seemed to like the show. It's been a tough year and a half for the boys of FRW. I'll be very frank with you here; when we first started running shows, the crew was pretty downtrodden. While we are not the AWA, it is little secret that the crew was the remnants of what was left after the AWA shut down. For a couple of years, most of the guys had spent most of their time warming up crowds until Tony Atlas, Koko B. Ware, Road Warrior Animal and/or Greg Valentine headed out for his match. I don't mean any insult to any of the names mentioned, esp. Mr. Valentine; he's a hell of a guy and can STILL wrestle a hell of a match. I also don't mean to insult anyone involved w/ the former AWA; they had access to Valentine and others for the main events, and I don't blame them for trying to promote that way.
The problem became that the guys on the undercard became used to or never learned how to reach beyond doing a 10 minute match designed mainly to keep people entertained enough until the "Stars" came out. In short...they had very few opprotunities to learn to be the focal point of a show. A lot of guys had to learn how to get a crowd to focus on them now, because THEY had to beccme the stars. That learning process was kind of painful; our first show ever in Milford, NH drew about...oh, 10 people. Of course, we ran head to head w/ the Pats in the playoffs on that first show, but you also had me promoting the show, which I had ZERO experience with despite my near 18 years of in ring activity. We soldiered on, however, and tried a lot of different things. The guys stuck through my "learn to promote wrestling" on the fly (an ongoing process, but I have gotten better at it) and cut their teeth in some rather hard conditions and in front of some small crowds. Guys like Johnny Vegas and Tim Walker, who had been focal points of local shows before, helped tremendously with the development. The show you saw in Rochester is not an end to the development of the guys or the show itself, but it is an indication how far everyone has come...myself included.
3) I have always thought Chaotic Wrestling ran an excellent show myself. I spent a lot of time with those guys a few years ago. I don't think any of their guys would tank a match or give less than their best effort. I do believe, however, that sometimes when 90 percent of your talent on a show comes from the same training facility and that crew spends SO much time together, some of the matches may seem a little redundant as they are all drawing from the same source of training. In short, sometimes the show lacks a little contrast. That may be why Tauron Nox liked them better with us than in the Chaotic setting; they offer something different, and the mix itself becomes different. Steak alone is fine, but to trully make the most out of a good meal you've got to add some spices to it; the contrast on your pallete makes certain "flavors" stick out more. Wrestling to me is the same way. Of course, we're all still wondering what flavor Master Flesh is.
4) Christian Angers has become a standout wrestler. Every time he steps out from FRW and works for another promoter, I have recieved nothing but positive feedback from everyone he has worked for. You haven't heard much about him outside of the "inside" circles because people are really just starting to see him in more featured roles.
Thank you all for coming out...We have to get to work on our show in Claremont in 3 weeks and then we're back to Rochester...hope to see you there!
FRW Fall Guy AKA Maverick Wild
PS: I am working on a new ring as we speak. Hopefully, it will make it's debut some time soon.
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Post by pmoholland on Mar 26, 2007 18:02:00 GMT -5
id like to give kudos to you and all the wrestlers and thank you for a great rochester show i really got my monies worth. was glad to see almost a full house not many free chairs maybe a handful. was glad to see at least the 1 greatest fan faction there the legends the stable was to scared to show up. come on gizzard and nature boy put the geritol down and show up on may 18th stop hideing from the legends you talk a good game, talk is cheap walk the walk i'll even buy you both a bottle of geritol if you show up just hop on your scooters and show up i'll even send you a map and bifocals bring the rest of the stable with you and as for the t.w.o should be the t.s.o. - to scared order come on get some cajonies show up i know your awed and feel physicaly & intellectully insignifigant compared to the legends but at least make an effort its ok for the stable & t.w.o. to job for the legends you should be proud & honered. hahahahahahaha.good to see valarie vixxen there representing the ladies always looking sexy ooops my wife saw that lol well just wanted to let you know was a great night of wrestling, a pat on the back to all you did a great job all around and anyone who would run a show with only 10 people in the seats has my respect 10 fold ive known a indie or 2 who cancelled with 30+ people for lack of ticket sales.i hoped the 10 people gave you a standing ovation because i sure would have.thank you very much and hope much success for you and your organization.
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Post by pmoholland on Mar 26, 2007 18:13:46 GMT -5
oh almost forgot hey sonny goodspeed for danceing with the stars gets my vote lol great job sonny you got a new fan a 51 year old kid lol.
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Post by Tauron Nox on Mar 28, 2007 12:47:39 GMT -5
A few comments of our own... 1) We were very happy with the turnout. We put out 144 seats for the event, and nearly every one had a hindquarter in it. I wouldn't go as far as to call it a sellout or that obnoxious "SRO" abbreviation, but we sold most of the seats. It was a hell of a start, and hopefully we can improve on that for May. 2) I am very glad everyone in attendance seemed to like the show. It's been a tough year and a half for the boys of FRW. I'll be very frank with you here; when we first started running shows, the crew was pretty downtrodden. While we are not the AWA, it is little secret that the crew was the remnants of what was left after the AWA shut down. For a couple of years, most of the guys had spent most of their time warming up crowds until Tony Atlas, Koko B. Ware, Road Warrior Animal and/or Greg Valentine headed out for his match. I don't mean any insult to any of the names mentioned, esp. Mr. Valentine; he's a hell of a guy and can STILL wrestle a hell of a match. I also don't mean to insult anyone involved w/ the former AWA; they had access to Valentine and others for the main events, and I don't blame them for trying to promote that way. The problem became that the guys on the undercard became used to or never learned how to reach beyond doing a 10 minute match designed mainly to keep people entertained enough until the "Stars" came out. In short...they had very few opprotunities to learn to be the focal point of a show. A lot of guys had to learn how to get a crowd to focus on them now, because THEY had to beccme the stars. That learning process was kind of painful; our first show ever in Milford, NH drew about...oh, 10 people. Of course, we ran head to head w/ the Pats in the playoffs on that first show, but you also had me promoting the show, which I had ZERO experience with despite my near 18 years of in ring activity. We soldiered on, however, and tried a lot of different things. The guys stuck through my "learn to promote wrestling" on the fly (an ongoing process, but I have gotten better at it) and cut their teeth in some rather hard conditions and in front of some small crowds. Guys like Johnny Vegas and Tim Walker, who had been focal points of local shows before, helped tremendously with the development. The show you saw in Rochester is not an end to the development of the guys or the show itself, but it is an indication how far everyone has come...myself included. 3) I have always thought Chaotic Wrestling ran an excellent show myself. I spent a lot of time with those guys a few years ago. I don't think any of their guys would tank a match or give less than their best effort. I do believe, however, that sometimes when 90 percent of your talent on a show comes from the same training facility and that crew spends SO much time together, some of the matches may seem a little redundant as they are all drawing from the same source of training. In short, sometimes the show lacks a little contrast. That may be why Tauron Nox liked them better with us than in the Chaotic setting; they offer something different, and the mix itself becomes different. Steak alone is fine, but to trully make the most out of a good meal you've got to add some spices to it; the contrast on your pallete makes certain "flavors" stick out more. Wrestling to me is the same way. Of course, we're all still wondering what flavor Master Flesh is. 4) Christian Angers has become a standout wrestler. Every time he steps out from FRW and works for another promoter, I have recieved nothing but positive feedback from everyone he has worked for. You haven't heard much about him outside of the "inside" circles because people are really just starting to see him in more featured roles. Thank you all for coming out...We have to get to work on our show in Claremont in 3 weeks and then we're back to Rochester...hope to see you there! FRW Fall Guy AKA Maverick Wild PS: I am working on a new ring as we speak. Hopefully, it will make it's debut some time soon. Hey Mav, You made some very interesting points in this post, so I thought I would give you my reaction. One mans feedback must be better than no feedback, right? 1) I have no doubt that you will improve on the Rochester attendance in May. Word tends to spread quickly about good indy shows. 2) It sounds like FRW has come a really long way in the past year then. Being in the position that many of the wrestlers were in is something that can happen in most any workplace. I've been in a similar position myself. Being held back by the "upper management" is very demoralizing, and that is what it sounds like was happening to them. Having veterans such as Johnny Vegas and Tim Walker in the locker room to mentor these guys and keep their morale up must have been very important, and I'm sure will be for some time to come. 3) Chaotic used to run some great shows. However, my experience in the past year or so is that they seem to be more interested in grooming the next export to the WWE than anything else. Not that there is anything wrong with that I guess, but I do not watch ANYTHING Vince puts on TV. I'm a wrestling fan first and foremost, not a "sports entertainment" fan. ROH is good , WWE is bad, and TNA can't make up their mind and appear to be interesting in ripping off Vince than they are in competing with him. I did enjoy watching Chase and Johnny working for you more than I have in Chaotic. This could very well be the redundancy issue you spoke of. Or maybe they just love you so much that they give that extra effort. Thanks for using the Steak analogy. Now I am having a craving for it that I have not had in years. Beef..... As for Master Flesh, while I don't know him personally, we do have some common friends. With that being the case, I think that I can safely guess that his flavor would be a mix of burning leaves, formaldehyde, damp earth, and rum. Not sure what ratios would be involved there. I'll leave that up for debate. 4) If I see Christians name on a card outside of FRW, I'll show up to give him my support!
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Post by Mr Old School on Mar 30, 2007 16:52:15 GMT -5
I guess I'll throw in my two cents as well, here we go... I guess I'll start off by saying that last Friday night was my first experience with FRW. For the record and a sense of perspective, I want to just say that I was a faithful patron of the WFA and thoroughly enjoyed their monthly shows. However such was not the case the first time I went to one of their cards. It took some time and some background info (provided by Jason & Kat) as well as a few more shows to truly "get into" their product. But after "getting it" I really enjoyed their shows as well as the wrestlers themselves, the feuds and the fan interaction. I feel as though I'm back at that same starting point with the FRW. I'm not familiar with most of their talent and so it was more of a "feeling out" situation. I was also not aware of any back stories/angles/feuds/history between any of the wrestlers and thus I wasn't sure who I wanted to root for. My hope is that I'll eventually reach the same comfort and enjoyment level with the FRW that I had with the WFA. With all that said, the FRW's first impression was somewhat mixed for me. Here's a few bullet points from the evening: Angers/Wild - I really enjoyed this match. It had a very old school feel to it, something I feel is missing in much of today's wrestling. While Angers seems a bit young for holding the promotion's main title, I'm willing to give him a chance to see what he's about. I have to admit though that I was very impressed with him in that match as I was with Wild. I think as this feud continues over the next few shows, I'll have a greater appreciation for the ring pschology and the storyline that I don't have right now. Master Flesh - Unique, very... unique. He quickly became my daughter's favorite FRW wrestler of the night though I'm not sure what that means exactly, LOL. He appeared to be a well trained grappler and not just a gothic "slug-it-out" type. I'm curious to see where this character goes from here. The ring - I'm glad to hear that there may be an upgrade of that ring. It HAD to hurt. I saw Kid Crazy speak to the ref briefly about it and his body language indicated that he was NOT excited about taking bumps on that dinosaur of a ring mat. I hope the new ring happens before someone gets injured. KId Crazy/Goodspeed - While both have their strengths, I think this was a bad combination and a serious clash of styles. Crazy is one of the most entertaining wrestlers around on the indy scene and, except for his spitting routine, always gives a solid performance. I think he was handicapped by Goodspeed's lack of energy and mobility. Crazy's style is usually fastpaced while Sonny's was slow and plodding. I understand what Goodspeed brings to the table as far as crowd interaction and all, but I think he was not the opponent Crazy should have been wrestling. Just my own humble opinion. Sethoran/Matt Spectro/V.Vixxen (formerly Ms Peters)/Justin Shape - It was a nice touch, as well as a smart business move, to include these former WFA staples into this inaugural FRW show. It gave a nice kind of "welcome" to the former WFA fans attending a FRW show for the first time. I know I appreciated it so kudos for booking that. Johnny Vegas - Now don't ask me why... but THIS guy... he's already become my favorite FRW guy. I love the whole nerd-who-thinks-he's-cool Las Vegas lounge lizard gimmick. His looks and actions just accentuate the role and he pulls it off perfectly. I was rolling on the floor when this guy was interacting with the ladies in the crowd. I half-expected him to blurt out at some point "Hey, where you folks from?" LOL! He was hysterical and I look forward to seeing him again, maybe in a singles match where he could shine more. Overall, I enjoyed the show and I will certainly buy another front row ticket for the May 18th show. I look forward to having another regular local wrestling event and wish nothing but the best for FRW. See ya on the 18th, Rod aka "Mr Old School" PS: I also look forward to the impending resumption of the Legends/Stables feud as it's been far too long since the Grand Wizard & The Nature Boy have traded barbs with The Dover Legends. Let the mindgames begin!
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Post by frwfallguy on Mar 30, 2007 21:16:41 GMT -5
I guess I'll throw in my two cents as well, here we go... I guess I'll start off by saying that last Friday night was my first experience with FRW. For the record and a sense of perspective, I want to just say that I was a faithful patron of the WFA and thoroughly enjoyed their monthly shows. However such was not the case the first time I went to one of their cards. It took some time and some background info (provided by Jason & Kat) as well as a few more shows to truly "get into" their product. But after "getting it" I really enjoyed their shows as well as the wrestlers themselves, the feuds and the fan interaction. I feel as though I'm back at that same starting point with the FRW. I'm not familiar with most of their talent and so it was more of a "feeling out" situation. I was also not aware of any back stories/angles/feuds/history between any of the wrestlers and thus I wasn't sure who I wanted to root for. My hope is that I'll eventually reach the same comfort and enjoyment level with the FRW that I had with the WFA. With all that said, the FRW's first impression was somewhat mixed for me. Here's a few bullet points from the evening: Angers/Wild - I really enjoyed this match. It had a very old school feel to it, something I feel is missing in much of today's wrestling. While Angers seems a bit young for holding the promotion's main title, I'm willing to give him a chance to see what he's about. I have to admit though that I was very impressed with him in that match as I was with Wild. I think as this feud continues over the next few shows, I'll have a greater appreciation for the ring pschology and the storyline that I don't have right now. Master Flesh - Unique, very... unique. He quickly became my daughter's favorite FRW wrestler of the night though I'm not sure what that means exactly, LOL. He appeared to be a well trained grappler and not just a gothic "slug-it-out" type. I'm curious to see where this character goes from here. The ring - I'm glad to hear that there may be an upgrade of that ring. It HAD to hurt. I saw Kid Crazy speak to the ref briefly about it and his body language indicated that he was NOT excited about taking bumps on that dinosaur of a ring mat. I hope the new ring happens before someone gets injured. KId Crazy/Goodspeed - While both have their strengths, I think this was a bad combination and a serious clash of styles. Crazy is one of the most entertaining wrestlers around on the indy scene and, except for his spitting routine, always gives a solid performance. I think he was handicapped by Goodspeed's lack of energy and mobility. Crazy's style is usually fastpaced while Sonny's was slow and plodding. I understand what Goodspeed brings to the table as far as crowd interaction and all, but I think he was not the opponent Crazy should have been wrestling. Just my own humble opinion. Sethoran/Matt Spectro/V.Vixxen (formerly Ms Peters)/Justin Shape - It was a nice touch, as well as a smart business move, to include these former WFA staples into this inaugural FRW show. It gave a nice kind of "welcome" to the former WFA fans attending a FRW show for the first time. I know I appreciated it so kudos for booking that. Johnny Vegas - Now don't ask me why... but THIS guy... he's already become my favorite FRW guy. I love the whole nerd-who-thinks-he's-cool Las Vegas lounge lizard gimmick. His looks and actions just accentuate the role and he pulls it off perfectly. I was rolling on the floor when this guy was interacting with the ladies in the crowd. I half-expected him to blurt out at some point "Hey, where you folks from?" LOL! He was hysterical and I look forward to seeing him again, maybe in a singles match where he could shine more. Overall, I enjoyed the show and I will certainly buy another front row ticket for the May 18th show. I look forward to having another regular local wrestling event and wish nothing but the best for FRW. See ya on the 18th, Rod aka "Mr Old School" PS: I also look forward to the impending resumption of the Legends/Stables feud as it's been far too long since the Grand Wizard & The Nature Boy have traded barbs with The Dover Legends. Let the mindgames begin! You may notice when reading this board that you will get a lot of response from me. A lot of places won't do that. I do it because to me, it doesn't make any sense to have a website and/or forum where people ask questions and not answer them as directly as possible. Also, as "Mr. Old School", you may notice that this board somewhat breaks the old "Kaybfaybe" tradition in some ways, but our shows are more old fashioned (and maybe a tad more carny...I am a disciple of Lobsterman, after all). Some would probably find that somewhat contradictory. My theory is that if you are educated to wrestling enough to post on a message board and discuss the pro's and con's of the matches and the wrestlers, there's no point in trying to maintain some weird and clumsy facade on the board. On to your comments, Mr. Old School a) Christian Angers actually holds FRW's secondary belt, the Granite State Title. The main belt, the FRW championship, is currently held by Kid Krazy. Christian Angers isn't that young...he's been wrestling around 5 years now, and is in his late 20's to 30 years old (don't know his exact age). He is one of those rare, lucky individuals who maintains a youthful look (as opposed to my old @$$). b) Master Flesh is as tough of a son of a 8itch (I am using filler letters to indicate swears as to overcome the board's built in word filter; it's very strict; I'm starting to think the 700 club administrates the board server) as you will ever meet. He is currently what most would call a "heel". He is, however, very unique and gets a much wider range of reactions than the rest of the guys. c) A lot of wrestling shows go with a heel announced first, baby face second format. That tends to keep the heels and the baby faces fairly clear cut. In all bouts between non-title holders, we do the same. We have taken a cue from the old NWA format, however...All our champions, whether heel or baby face, are announced second. In older and simpler times, the champions were announced after their opponents, with the implied meaning that the CHAMPIONSHIP and the CHAMPION himself was the most important person in the match. We also assign 2 referees to the FRW championship match as another way of stressing the importance of that title over all the others. d) "Fabulous" Johnny Vegas is not only the most overlooked pro wrestler in the area...I think he could have had a d**n fine career nationally as a manager/wrestler. Anyone who overlooks this guy because he lacks aesthetically pleasing slabs of muscle miss out on what a truly gifted performer he is. I can honestly say, I have not come across anyone who plays the role of the cowardly, sneaky heel better than Johnny Vegas. e) Spectro, Sethoran and Justin all got their start working for the Lobsterman and I have had a hand in most of their initial training, so adding them to the roster in some form was a no brainer. I'm not always sure of myself or my decisions, but I knew they'd fit right in. f) Kid Krazy, while capable of going at a break neck pace, is a very diversely talented guy and can do just about anything and work any type of match. That is a quality I look for in a champion, as I will call on the FRW champion to work with heels and baby faces and fully expect them to have a good match. The old NWA touring champions used to have to work with a whole range of guys all the time. Some nights, Ric Flair would go from working with someone at the level of Ricky Morton one night and JYD the next. Although he was traditionally a heel who came in to face the top baby face in a territory, it wasn't uncommon for him to come in to face the territory's top heels. g) Feuds and Story lines; as you will see, I believe in keeping things like that fairly simple. No one likes going to see any type of show and feel like they just walked in on the middle of an Oliver Stone conspiracy film. Not only do I not believe in muddying the waters to much, but we dont' have the capacity to do so. We don't have 4 TV shows devoted to us a week, nor do I have a staff of writers. I dont' have the means to convey a really complicated "story", even if I wanted to. I'm a wrestler with a little bit of imagination; thus, the shows are going to reflect that. My "stories" will be pretty much, "This guy hates this guy, and the feeling is mutual. here's why, and now they are going to kill each other". There will be twists and turns. No one will have nude photos that they blackmail another wrestler with however (well, at least not in front of a crowd. I knew I shouldn't have had those 7 Corona's over Master Flesh's house! God d**n cell phone cams). h) Lastly, the ring. I am working on a new one. The main problem with the ring is that it is very light, making it hard to keep the ropes tight. The bump is usually fine, although for reasons unbenonst to us it sometimes "freezes" and gets as hard as a rock. Me, after 17 years of this I can't tell the d**n difference and I've been in rings that were so much worse than that one that if given the option, I'd rather wrestle on the floor as at least I'd know what I was getting myself into. The ring is also borrowed; I will always implicitly thank Jeff Costa for letting me use it for so long. Whew. Long one. Hope to see you in May! FRW Fall Guy AKA Maverick Wild
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Post by Mr Old School on Apr 1, 2007 11:09:48 GMT -5
Hey Maverick, thanks for responding to my post. I really appreciate the fact that you do take time out to interact with people in the forums. That was one of the things sorely lacking with the WFA promotion. BTW, that will be the last comparison to the WFA as I understand this site is to promote and discuss your promotion and I don't want to be seen as constantly comparing the two rpomotions. What's past is past. Onto the future. I look forward to hearing more of your thoughts and explanations with regards to your promotion. A couple quick notes in response to your last reply... a) I apologize for mistaking the Granite Title for the "main title" of the FRW. That just goes to show how impressed I was with the match between yourself and Angers. As I said before, it had such an old school and important feel to it that I easily mistook it for such a big championship match. That's a credit to the work of both you and Angers. I look forward to the rematch hopefully in May. Speaking of Angers, he does indeed look younger than his true age evidently. Good for him because some of us aren't that lucky! LOL! c) Due to the format you explained, the show really had the ambiance of the old WWWF shows when they used to travel up here occasionally to a high school gym or armory back in the early to late 70's. I truly enjoyed that and look forward to the next card. d) In regards to Johnny Vegas, you can tell him that the last time I enjoyed a new (to me anyway) wrestler was the first time I saw "Superstar" Billy Graham back in the 70's so tell him he's in good company as far as I'm concerned! Vegas is truly one of the funniest and most engaging wrestlers I've ever seen in person and I've been around a loooong time. It may be time to start up a "Fabulous" Johnny Vegas stable of fans and call ourselves "The Fabulous Ones". Nah, I don't need a copyright infringement lawsuit courtesy of Steve Keirn or Stan Lane. e) It was interesting to hear that you'd been involved in the careers of Seth, Spectro, and Justin Shape. I hope we'll continue to see them in your promotion in the future. I think Spectro (who had extreme heat with the Dover crowd prior to this) is going to enjoy a reversal of fortunes with respect to the croiwd(at least those from the old Dover shows). It should be very interesting to see how he reacts to the crowd and they react to him in the future. f) With respect to Kid Crazy, I thought that might be your thought process when booking that particular match. And while I agree that a champion should be versatile and adapt to his opponent's style, which I agree Crazy does easily, I still wish he'd have been booked against a more mobile foe. Crazy has my respect with regards to his abundance of talent. I'm a fan of his style of heel, that being a straight-forward no-nonsense type of approach similar to indy wrestler Alex Arion. They play to the crowd juuuuuust the right amount without going overboard and becoming a caricature. He's able to allow me to suspend my disbelief easier than alot of others in the business as it were. And yes, I can see that "Flair-esque" quality to his adaptability in the ring. A very good choice for a champion IMO and I look forward to seeing him in May. g) On the feuds/storylines issue... I applaud the fact that you're style is to keep things simple. I think it'll help in getting the crowd into the various matchups as they develop. I didn't mean to imply that I expect WWE-type of extravagant or elaborate storylines/vignettes/feuds/etc. To the contrary, I was referring to the simple booking premise of "building up" feuds so that the matchups make sense and have some interest/intrigue and not just have two wrestlers thrown together to fill a spot on a card. A good example of what I mean is your current situation with Angers. There was some background provided on the website which added to the importance of your match. Then the match ended without conflict resolution prompting a rematch with a stipulation added. I suspect that if the rematch ends with controversy, there'll be another rematch with yet a more endangering stipulation escalating the intensity and rivalry. What I was also saying was that I hope the other matches on the cards begin to have a similar buildup and thus give them more importance than just another wrestling match between two talents. From your previous reply I get the sense that you're already trying to do that so I look forward to seeing what's coming next and over the course of the summer with regards to feuds/storylines. BTW, I'm glad to hear that there will be no nude photos as part of any feuds - I was afraid that Goodspeed might have had a few too many Coronas HIMSELF! And finally... the ring. I thought a few of the bumps looked painful so maybe the ring did freeze up once or twice. I hope you'll be able to resolove the ring situation in the near future not just for the fans sake but for the heath of your talent. Good luck ! Thanks again for the reply and insight. I really appreciate it and look forward to seeing you in May in Rochester! Rod aka "Mr Old School"
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Post by Bad Karma on Apr 1, 2007 16:22:44 GMT -5
I've really enjoyed the discussion of the Rochester show and hearing new fans' opinions of their first FRW experience. It sounds like it was positive and thank you for the compliments directed at me. However one question remaines a mystery. How old is Christian Angers? I will turn 33 next month.
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Post by Tauron Nox on Apr 2, 2007 22:56:53 GMT -5
I have a few responses to different people here, so please pardon the mess that I’m sure this post will resemble
Mr. Old School
I agree completely about the “old school” feel of the show. Most shows these days (I’m 30 and talking like a curmudgeon. Sad…) just don’t feel like a wrestling show.
I’m also giving you bonus points for the Fabulous Ones reference. 80’s southern wrestling kicks a$$.
Maverick
I think it’s great that you respond to what we post on here. It shows that you care, and that you like to write/talk a lot. j/k (but only a little J). Knowing that a fed cares about us “smarks” will keep us coming back every time.
The keep it simple philosophy for feuds/storylines is great. I’ve seen convoluted BS feuds turn away a lot of indy fans. The last thing I wanna see or hear is that Master Flesh kidnapped Johnny Vegas’ favorite showgirl from the casino and that she is now having a baby which eventually turns out to be Kid Krazy’s. WOW, maybe I should send my resume down to Stamford.
Speaking of Johnny Vegas, I agree whole-heartedly that he is VERY underrated. He may not have that “look”, but he has never failed to entertain any time that I have seen him.
Kid Krazy is diversely talented. I remember the first time I saw him (which was the second NEI Invitational) and saying to my wife how impressed I was with his ability to change things up and adapt in a match. Very few people can do that at this level, and he happens to be one of them.
As for wrestling on the floor, do you really want to go the Perry Saturn route?
My wife says your a$$ is actually rather nice for a man your age. And I can't believe that i just typed that...
Christian
You’re 33? You look 25 and are 2 years older than me. You lucky SOB….
OK, I’m done kissing a$$. I’ll see you all in Rochester in May. Unless any of you are trekking up to Claremont like my wife and I. Yes, we’re that crazy.
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